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Old 01-Apr-09, 04:07 PM
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Hello KARMA friends,

When I made the announcement about KARMA OL in January, it was with the understanding that Open Labs and myself had the whole arrangement fleshed out and just needed to finalize certain details and the legal agreement. However, while both parties have tried to work diligently on this, it has turned out to be far more complicated than anticipated, due in part to the fact that Open Labs has been refining the design of their products and which software components are to be bundled on the various systems that KARMA OL is supposed to be included with (including the 3 new products just announced for MESSE).

Meanwhile, I have been working daily on the KARMA OL version, in terms of the interface and various new features it includes over my previous versions of KARMA Software. But since KARMA OL voicing will depend on using the other included software components, I have not been able to proceed with the development of the KARMA-fied Performances, other than developmental testing.

So, while I remain optimistic that KARMA OL will still become a reality, at this time it is obvious that it will not be coming out on or around April 1st (as previously stated), or indeed even within the month of April. I sincerely apologize if this has inconvenienced anyone, and I must advise you that if you are considering purchasing an Open Labs product specifically because it will have KARMA OL as part of the system, I would hold off on this a bit until I can report that it is definitely going to happen and that the business arrangements have been finalized.

But let me share with you a letter from Hank Coleman, CEO of Open Labs:


Stephen:

I’d like to thank you for your patience as we have rolled out three product lines over the last three months with DBeat launching today at MusikMesse.

Jointly, we had set this date as our announcement date for KARMA OL as well, but due to no fault of yours, we’ve missed this deadline and for that we are truly sorry. What I don’t want your customers and audience to think is that this is some reflection on you or on KARMA. Nothing could be further from the case.

Our partnership with KARMA LAB is one of our prime priorities not just for us, but for all the creative musicians we both serve. We consider the inclusion of KARMA to be an absolute priority and only because there was not enough time for you to prepare, as you so meticulously do, we’ve had to postpone our announcement and launch due to the normal rigors and timelines which come with contracts, terms and conditions and all the other legal and product jargon which comes with such an important partnership.

Suffice it to say, we are laser-focused on getting this off the ground ASAP. Please place the responsibility for postponing such an important announcement solely on the Open Labs team and not on you.

We believe that the “open” KARMA product will help revolutionize the creative arena and we have every intention to help get it there and provide a platform for it to flourish.

Again, you’ve been a great partner to date and we would not want you to feel responsible in any way for this delay.

Sincerely,

Hank

J. Hamilton Coleman
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Open Labs, Inc.



More information will be released here as soon as it is available. So thank you for your interest in KARMA OL and the Open Labs Products, and sincerest apologies for the delays as we get this partnership under way!
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I'll wait...
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Yep, I´ll wait too...once those 2 merge together music will become a universe to explore. It should be named Cosmic Karma OL

I can hardly wait...to see it comming.
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anything more, stephen?
i spoke with Open Labs today....
they are VERY HOPEFUL that things are "coming along"

i hope THAT is true
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they are VERY HOPEFUL that things are "coming along"

i hope THAT is true
So.. they said nothing.
We all are hopeful and which things are coming which way...
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Well, we are inches away from signing off on this, and the ball is now in their court again, so I...wait.
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Well, we are inches away from signing off on this, and the ball is now in their court again, so I...wait.
Signing off as in quitting?
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i think he means "inking the agreement"
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i think he means "inking the agreement"
at least, i HOPE that's what stephen means
"sign off on" means to "finalize, approve, make it a reality, ink the agreement", etc.

I've been told that their attorney approved the latest set of changes, so it's moving...slowly as these things always do.
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Ahhh.. ok.. sounds a lot better.
Learning every day..
I really hope it works out.
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Stephen....
i know that you are well-aware of MY personal sentiments about this quite emotional subject

i'm ready to buy the NeKo XXL....
why on earth would any practicing pediatrician.... at age 46.....
who's been playing the piano and keyboard since age 4.... ever considering such a purchase?

who knows.....
but.....
if KARMA isn't in it....
it won't be in MY house

but.....
as i've said ad nauseum KARMA and The NeKo...
there's NO beating THAT combination

every once in a while a new product comes along that CHANGES EVERYTHING
i truly believe that Open Labs is making SUCH products

and.....
i guarantee that Korg, Roland, and Yamaha (etc.) have sat up and taken notice
if they don't create a keyboard that can play a VST and VSTi, NATIVELY.... pretty soon...
good luck to them
IMHO, of course

in the end......
Victor Wong at OL knows how important THIS is
the best of luck to you....
as always

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Keep you hopes up, I just recived words from Open Labs that there will be Karma on both the L and the E series. A littel later than planed, but it will be there.

3rd quarter of this year will be a god time to look for it.
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Keep you hopes up, I just recived words from Open Labs that there will be Karma on both the L and the E series. A littel later than planed, but it will be there.

3rd quarter of this year will be a god time to look for it.
where did you hear that?
on the "E" series as well?
that seems a bit odd to me
you think they'd want you to get their "UPPER LEVEL" products to get KARMA

i hope that the deal is "INKED" soon....
and talked about on BOTH this forum and

http://forum.openlabs.com/index.php?act=idx

thanks for your info
i'd love to know more about what you heard

again.... thanks for updating this VERY important topic
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I hope that stephen will enlighten us HERE.....
when he deems it appropriate

once again....
KARMA and Open Labs......

simply....... WOW !!
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where did you hear that?
on the "E" series as well?
that seems a bit odd to me
you think they'd want you to get their "UPPER LEVEL" products to get KARMA

i hope that the deal is "INKED" soon....
and talked about on BOTH this forum and

http://forum.openlabs.com/index.php?act=idx

thanks for your info
i'd love to know more about what you heard

again.... thanks for updating this VERY important topic

Hi

Thats the informatin I recived last night from OL. The releaze date is not set, and who can other than Stephen anyway.

But let me tell you this: Karma and OL is a real dream comming true
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